Geschrieben von Sleipnir am 08.04.2007, 15:44:
so wie ich es verstanden habe, bleiben Dinge in Kisten erhalten. Allerdings habe ich die Beobachtung gemacht, das Händler sehr schnell angekaufte Dinge verschwinden lassen. Vielleicht hat das auch mit dem Bug zu tun.
Das Problem ist halt, das ein z.B. ein Pfeil, den man auf den Boden legt, eine ID bekommt, die nicht mehr so aussieht "FFxxxxxx", sondern bei "00xxxxxx" ist. Diese IDs sind ja schon vergeben durch andere Gegenstände im Spiel.
UESP schreibt ja:
Zitat:
A very serious bug has been found with Shivering Isles that will render the game unplayable in many ways after about 50 to 120 hours of play (better FPS means bug hits earlier). The bug will occur regardless of whether you access SI content or not. The basis of bug is that an internal "space" of identification numbers for objects created in the game (e.g., a dropped arrow, a new creature, etc.) becomes exhausted -- at which point the newly created objects disappear from the game world.
"unplayable" klingt nicht gerade gut.
Anscheinend hat es mit einem Skript im Addon zu tun und nicht im 1.2 Patch, darum sollten alle Leute, die noch Saves vor SI haben, diese besonders sichern... was ich leider nicht getan habe.
Edit:
schöne Zusammenfassung des Bugs aus dem Bethsoft-Forum
Zitat:
Let's do a recap:
-This bug will afflict you from the moment you install SI.
-The SI files are registred into Oblivion.esm, and they are what cause this glitch. So, if you want it to dissapear, the only way for now is to keep a savegame from before SI install, then reinstall vanilla oblivion without SI.
About the bug himself: there is a good article on it on www.uesp.net. Long story short(not so short actually):
-after SI install, the game will generate a huge amount of object ID per second. Approximatively one or two per frame(so if obli run with 30 fps, the game will generate nearly 60 object ID/second). Also, this newly created ID refer to non-existant object, so it doesn't truly affect the size of the savegames.
-normally, one ID is generated each time a new object or NPC appear in the game world. The game generate ID from FF 000001 to FF FFFFFF. Under vanilla oblivion, the second number need far more than maybe one thousand hours of play to be reach. You will probably not live long enough to see it(or rather, you will already play the elders scrolls 5 for a long time.)
-now for the problem itself: when the counter hit FF FFFFFF, the game reset it to 00 000000. But the trick is that number is not a valid object ID. Thus, the object will simply dissapear from the game world. As I say before, this problem can appear in vanilla oblivion, theorically. But with SI installed, the problem will appear under a reasonnable amount of time. If you begin a playthrough from the very beggining(with SI installed), you have approximatively 150 hours, less if you already play vanilla oblivion for a long time before SI, less again if you own a high end PC(as the fps will rise, the ID will rise exponentially faster).
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Serious Shivering Isles Ref Bug
